Is Kalyug 432,000 Years Long ? 2012 & the Twelfth Canto of Shrimad Bhagvatam.

432,000 Years in Kalyug , Isnt this doubtful ?

1) Ramayana and Mahabharata Both saw the return of Lord Vishnu’s Avatars, as RAM & KRISHNA. Mahabharata was approx 3000 BCE. And Ramayana was Approx 7000 BCE. We also know that The events of the Ramayana take place in the Treta Yuga, when the world is only somewhat corrupted. The events of the Mahabharata take place much later, at the end of the Dwapara Yuga, the “Age of Two,” when the world is far more grim and corrupt than in Rama’s times. The violent and tragic events at the end of the Mahabharata mark the end of the Dwapara Yuga and the beginning of the Kali Yuga, the worst age of the world.

The Four Yugas in order are as : (Satyug, Tretyug, Dwaparyug, Kaliyug).

Thus my question to you is, that if end of tretyug was 7000 bce when Ramayana ended by killing of Ravan, and if END of dwapar yuga was 3000 bce when Mahabharat ended by killing of duryodhan, THEN its clear that each age is around 3000-5000 years long. That means, Kaliyuga which started after Krishna Died (resurected) is about to end any moment now !

Then where is this 432,000 years figure coming from ?

2) Suppose you have a firm argument for the above, and if 432000 years was true, Even though only a few thousand years have passed since start of Kali Yuga… the advent of modern science has advanced the pace contrary to what is stipulated in sacred Scriptures. Something that would have taken thousand years to achieve in the past is now possible within a few hours… not days! Wouldn’t that mean the time of the great shift of the ages is close by?

Evidence from the Srimad bhagvatam 12th Canto, about the avg age of humans being 22 years when kalyug shall end.

What if the Srimad Bhagvatam was modified ?

It is said, that when Christ was crucified, the Antichrist took over the planet earth, destorying most history and original technology. As you know on earth pyramids, and various ancient mystery technolgies exist for which current science have no answers.

Maybe Antichrist destroyed it and hijacked our original technology, our original teachings, modified true spirituality into various religions and made us a victim of ‘divide & rule’.

Also Sanskrit is virtually non-existent today, i.e no one understands it. Thus if we even found the original scriptures of shrimad bhagvatam in sanskrit, who can translate them with confidence ?

Maybe English & Hindi (current popular languages) were thus invented by the antichrist, so that we live in complete ignorance of the truth ?

Please do comment on my thoughts. I am also not sure about my arguments and so i find this column a great place to clear my doubts. And i greatly respect most of the Shrimad Bhagwatam or the Gita. Only the TIME SPAN OF KALYUG KEEPS ME AWAKE.

HOW LONG SHUD WE SUFFER THIS CRAZY ‘GHOR KALYUG’ ? ANOTHER 427,000 Years ?

This will make you smile!

I have done much research regarding the published time frame of the yugas within Iskcon and Gaudiya Math publications. I simply did not believe those calculations, so here is what I found out: According to the precession of the equinoxes noted by Plato and others as well as Sri Yukteswari Swami, spiritual master of Paramahanda Yogananda, as well as many current astronomers, mathematicians, historians, philosophers, Egyptologists and others, - - - one complete cycle of ages is between 24,000 and 25,920 years (differentiated by the wobbling of the planet on it's axis). In the cycle, there are both Descending yugas and Ascending yugas. Starting at the top of the Descendiing cycle, Satya yuga starts with 4,800 years, then Treta at 3,600 years, then Dwarpara at 2,400 years and Kali at 1200 years, totaling 12,000 years. Then the cycle starts to Ascend with Kali, Dwapara, Treta and Satya again. Satya is the most enlightened period as our sun comes close to it's twin, know as Sirius, and they revolve around each other. All is bright and clear. As both our sun and Sirius get further away from each other (Kali), a period of darkness starts to become very evident when men can only perceive of material life and cannot begin to understand spirituality.

HERE is the discrepancy in our beloved scriptures with our line of Pure Devotees (and it is not their fault):: According to information given to us, Krsna descends only once in a day of Brama. When He descends, Treta Yuga swaps places with Dwapara Yuga. If you add 1200 years of Kali with 3600 years of Treta you will find that Krsna appeared around 5,000 years ago, as we have been told. If you follow the Treta Yuga given to us as devotees, you will find that Krsna appeared like 800,000 years ago or something like that. This is a clear discrepancy. So which is it, 800,000 years ago or this Kali plus the last Treta for a total of 5000 yrs., according to the precession of the equinoxes?
Krsna appears at the end of Dwapara Yuga, right? Draw a circle, map it and it will make sense to you and . . . Check YouTube for "The Great Year", "The Pyramid Code" and read "The Holy Science" and you will be able to sleep at night again. I also had this problem. Glad to see that someone else in our group is actually thinking about this and is willing to do the research. Einstein said, "Condemnation without Investigation is the Height of Folly!" So, please join me and Investigate.

no relationship

Precession and mahayugas have nothing in common.

Hari Hari
ys Jan

Really?

Have you done your research? or is this condemnation without investigation?

speculation

No condemnation but a fact. Yuktesvar completely disregarded the traditional lengths of cycles and invented new ones without any explanation why he did so. This is not the Vedic approach but a asastrika speculation.

Hari Hari
ys Jan

FANATACISM and DOGMA

well, darlin, your comment just proves that you have not read the evidence because he DID explain his reasoning. And . . . these dates that he gave are in agreement with the theories of Pythagoras, Plato and so many others. 432,000 years were conjectured by astrologers who thought that 1200 years were actually daiva years. this was not a mistake of our spiritual masters. it was a mistake by kali yuga influenced astrologers. understandable.

if you want to know the TRUTH, please understand the it takes approximately 24,000 - 25,920 (human years) for our planet to pass through all the constellations. this is known by Plato as The Great Year. The yugas are divided into 4, as you know, which encompass this Great Year. Anyway, if you just take a look around, you can see that we are actually coming out of the dark ages.

Kali - The Dark Ages

Blood Letting - Leeches
Slavery
No electricity
The Wild West
The Plague
Genocide
Inquisition

Gradual change

Chemicals in Food
Polyester
Shock Therapy
Pasteurization
Penicillin
Electricity
Gravity
Telephones
Computers

Moving into Dwapara Yuga

Tesla becoming well-known
Solar Energy
Wind Power
Organic gardening
Mobile phones
Smart phones
More vegetarians
More spiritualists
Scientists looking at vedic philosophy for truth
History channel recognizing that sound vibration can actually move objects
so much more evidence.

So this message is not just for you, JAN@Veda - it is for anyone who dares to read it and think about what might actually be true. And . . . fanaticism makes you seem like an angry person, so for your own benefit, please give it up.

suki

precession vs cycles

That's exactly why it's a speculation. Yugas aren't meant to fit Platonic cycle in the first place. Lengths of cycles are stated in pre-modern, supertemporal sastras, not invented by any 'kali yuga influenced astrologers'.

> Anyway, if you just take a look around, you can see that we are actually coming out of the dark ages.

That's only a human-limited pratyaksa. There're ups and downs within cycles. One important sign of degradation is that more and more people largely influenced by atheism and advaita speculate how to fit the sastra to their ideas, not the other way round as intended by Krsna.

To sum it up, Gaudiya Vaisnava sampradaya sticks to vaidika sabda as apauruseya svatah pramana, not to be submitted to pratyaksa and anumana. Unless you and everyone else understand this basic fact, such mistakes and speculations will abound.

Hari Hari
ys Jan

Where's Brando?

Sorry I offended your religious beliefs. Happy I found a more realistic and scientific explanation. I have no need to carry on this conversation, so good luck to you!

That's another

That's another misunderstanding. It's not a question of any beliefs (where 'unfounded' is usually implied) but of an adherence to a tradition vs. pratyaksa and anumana which have no basis by design.

Hari Hari
ys Jan

Iskcon

i am not much of a religious person but if you need to find something out about Krishna Iskcon is the way to go.

Is Kalyug 432,000 Years Long

I was also searching for this question's answer... so came across your blog.
Have found below URL. which gives the clear answer for this calculation.
http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/when-does-the-kali-yuga-end
and much more details

Is Kalyug 432,000 Years Long ? 2012 & the Twelfth Canto of Shrim

Hi Brando,

You are absolutely correct.It seems that Kaliyug has already ended.
Now the transition period between Kaliyug and Satyayug. Now the Kalki has already started taking action against all the evils in whole world.
Kalki leela started from 06-October-2013 according to the oriya Malika.

Regards
Jyoti Prakash Sahoo

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